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ReservedWhiteKangaroo6396

ReservedWhiteKangaroo6396
Joined Feb 2017
ReservedWhiteKangaroo6396
Joined Feb 2017

Hey guys

I've had this dental appliance (it's a herbst) for a while and I used to have trouble getting used to it. So I got fed up and stopped using it and then started having dreams very often, almost every night constantly for months. Now I'm using it again because my sister told me she uses a mouthguard to stop her grinding and she noticed it she started having less dreams so I decided to try again. Well good news! I'm finally able to fall asleep with my dental appliance.... or I think I am. I have no problem just resting there with it in until I fall asleep. But then now the problem I have is I wake up and I find it on my nightstand the next morning! So now my problem is I have trouble keeping it in my mouth but I also have trouble remembering that I took it out at all! I would go to bed and not remember taking the dental appliance at all even though I apparently did. But I have no idea when I took it out, if I took it out before falling asleep or during the night or just when I was waking up. I've been trying the appliance again for about a week now and this is still an issue every morning. I've read about how you just have to get used to it and now I'm making more efforts to get used to it so I have no problem but maybe I still do have a problem with it and just don't realize it? Why am I taking it out every night? Why don't I remember doing that? When during the night or morning am I doing it? More importantly, how do I stop doing that at all? I've heard of one solution: duct tape my mouth but I'm sure that'll hurt like heck if I put it on then take it off the next morning!

Thanks.

Hey guys,

So I've been diagnosed with mild sleep apnea. I'm using the herbst oral device to treat it. I've had another sleep study to evaluate how that's going. The good news is that it seems to be working. The first study determined that my AHI was 14.1 (barely mild, I know) and that was when I was diagnosed and without the oral device. So I had my sleep dentist keep advancing it a few times. The last few months, I started sleeping a lot better but still wake up for just a minute or two or not even that long and have taken a sleeping pill a lot less than I used to. The sleep dentist decided to do another sleep study WITH the oral device. The study showed that my AHI went down to 9.6 so the oral device seems to be helping. Now my issue is that I still wake up right after my last appointment for another advancement for the oral device and seem like I do after a couple of hours of falling asleep. I don't know if it's because I'm still getting used to the last advancement but I'm concerned about the position of my chin. If I lift my chin up while sleeping on my stomach, I can feel my airway open up more and the back of my throat not really touching anything as if the air can get through better. If I just lay there casually without trying to do anything, I feel the back of my throat touching something as if the air isn't getting through better. My chin seem to be closer to my chest as my neck isn't up enough. So I figured my chin needs to be away more from my chest. I know that's easy to do if you're on your back but what about when you're on your side or stomach? I've heard of neck pillows but I don't know if that would help stomach sleepers. Isn't a neck pillow used if you sleep on your back? Any of you a stomach sleeper? How do you deal and do you feel like the back of your throat is touching something, not allowing air to get through into your body? I also wonder about how the CPAP is supposed to help if your airway isn't completely open. If your airway isn't really open, then how is the air from the CPAP machine supposed to get through your throat and into your lungs when you got throat muscles blocking your airway?

Thanks!

Well the appliance has a gap in between the top and bottom plates so it's easy to breathe through your mouth. I guess that's a good thing if you have a cold and your nose is all stopped up. I used my voice recorder on my phone to record my snoring and man, do I snore! It's like I can snore all night long without hardly stopping. Not sure if that meant I stopped breathing or I just stopped snoring for a bit. The snoring does definitely sound pretty nasal. So you're right, the oral doesn't seem to be helping with the snoring and I don't know if that's a real big deal but I know it can be an indicator that I still have sleep apnea. I recorded myself the last two nights. The night before last sounded a bit like I was almost gasping when I was waking up. Next minute sounded like I was waking up but I don't know. I don't use a video because it's so dark so I didn't think I could see myself. I don't know how you were able to see yourself in the dark with the video unless it wasn't real dark. For me, even some light keeps me awake so I need the room to be real dark. Anyway, the last 10-20 minutes before what sounded like me waking up, I can really hear myself breathe and sometimes it'd sound like I was sighing deeply or taking a little deep breathe. Before that, nothing like that kind of breathing. Last night, it wasn't really like that. I'd just snore and I was able to hear my breathing better (put the phone closer to me last night) but I don't think I heard much of "sighing" or really taking a deep breath before I heard what sounded like me waking up. So I don't know what to make of the whole thing. I'm thinking that I probably just need to have another adjustment, have the dentist move it up another millimeter. I just don't know how much more he'll do before he decides it's not working. I'm just surprised that I snore that much even with the oral device in and having an adjustment already. I didn't record myself before having the first adjustment. Wish I had thought of it! I can't believe I would snore that much when I sleep on my stomach. I can understand why I'd snore that much if I was laying on my back but don't understand why it'd happen that much when I sleep on my stomach. When I had my first sleep study, they determined I stopped breathing 14 times in an hour and that was in November. There's no way that's the case anymore if I snore that much now!