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It could be hypnic jerks and not sleep apnea. Reading This Is Natto by Daniel Erichsen really helped me. I know it iust sounds like another thing, but he actually talks about how all our efforts to avoid sleeplessness can actually cause it. Yes, even these crazy jerks. I feel compelled to pass this on as it really saved me, you won't regret reading it.

Thank you for such a kind message. I have actually found something called the sleep coach school on you tube and its the only professional Ive seen acknowledge this specific thing. He says it's basically a normal thing that happens and it's harmless etc so even that has helped take some of the fear away. I won't go on about his theories but he seems to really know what he's talking about, so for anyone who might be interested, he has a book about insomnia called This Is Natto by Daniel Erichsen. You can get it on Amazon. The YouTube channel has a playlist specifically about what he calls hypnic awareness and an Instagram account. Good luck everyone

Hi I was just wondering if anyone had any updates? I've been doing the wim hof breathing twice a day for over a month now, and can now hold my breath for up to a minute on an exhale and I'm still jerking awake all the time. I am also on beta blockers which was another suggestion. I've been trying to exercise while breathing through my nose but haven't managed it as much as I would like. It's a lot to do and I'm starting to think it was all for nothing, nothing has changed. I just feel like nothing is working and am starting to lose hope It seems like it worked quite quickly for all of you? Or I just expecting too much?

This is all so helpful! I've done a lot of research today and I really think you are right. I have a lot of the other symptoms of an over active nervous system too. I can't thank you enough for all your help. It seems the people on here are way more clued up that any doctor I've spoken to. Thanks again!

Hi i don't know how old this is but I have a question, I'm going through the same thing and doing my research, I think the co2 thing makes sense My question is about how you said the belly breathing made it worse? I've been told to do this by my therapist ( very recently so it's not the culprit) for my anxiety. I assumed it would have the same effect as holding your breath? Is this not the case? I'm a bit confused Thanks!

Ok that makes sense. I've definitely had anxiety seemingly for no reason all my life So I wonder if that's maybe what's causing my nervous system to be in overdrive, or the other way around? Maybe it doesn't matter. I'm definitely going to work on my anxiety and breathing but hopefully a beta blocker could help take the edge off too. It seems to just be a cycle that feeds itself. My last question to you is how do I find out if my nervous system is in overdrive? Is there a way to diagnose this? Would I need to be referred to a neurologist? I do worry that I might be put on a different beta blocker but I did read that they are prescribed for high blood pressure, which I've just found out I have and I also read that can be a symptom of over active nervous system ( I know I'm not wording that right but you know what I mean haha) So that all seems to make sense to me! Thank you again so much for all your help I feel like I'm finally on the road to sorting this out. You could be a genuine life saver!

I wonder if you know why nadonol worked and the other two did not? I've asked for beta blockers before and was put on propranolol for anxiety and it didn't seem to help. I'm not sure if I can get nadonol where I am (scotland) but it would help if I knew what it was about this one in connection to the central nervous system? I obviously do struggle with anxiety as well but you're saying it's not that? Isn't this central nervous system issue kind of set off because of anxiety? Sorry I'm just a bit confused Thanks again!

Hi I'm not sure if this comment was for me but I'm going to reply and say thank you nonetheless! I have seen things about the co2 in your body and am definitely going to start trying this. If anyone else has done this and it worked please let me know!

Hi First of all thank you so much for taking the time to reply I really appreciate it! I've been seeing things similar to this and I must admit I've wondered if it has to do with my anxiety, which is always high but obviously in over drive when I can't sleep. That seems to be the catch 22 here because how can I control my anxiety if I can't sleep? I have a genuine fear of not sleeping now as I've suffered from long bouts of insomnia as well. It just seems to never end! I did consider beta blockers but I've heard they sometimes make it hard to sleep too so I was afraid to try. I suppose it's worth a shot though. I think you're onto something with your nervous system sending a rush of adrenaline I've definitely felt that. It's just confusing to me because other times I wake up and clearly haven't been breathing so is it sleep apnea or not? Thanks again sorry for the long reply

Ok I will look into this, yeah I have a resmed auto 10 I know my machine has an sd card but couldn't figure out how to use it I was trying to fit it into my laptop! So you need an actual reader? Thank you so much for replying I greatly appreciate it!