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Warning - ResMed AirFit P10 nasal mask vent plugging

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Sierra +0 points · about 1 year ago Original Poster Sleep Patron

I had a rather unusual experience with my ResMed AirSense 10 machine and ResMed AirFit P10 nasal mask recently. I thought I would post it in case someone else encounters something like this (or wants to avoid it happening). On Thursday last week I had a quite normal sleep. CA events were a little high, but other than that, normal. Here is the OSCAR daily report. Notice the leakage graph in particular which shows peaks of leakage but none going over the red line. Also look at the Minute ventilation. It starts out elevated at about 15 but quickly settles down. This is all normal for me.

The next night I had trouble getting to sleep and couldn't seem to "get my breath". I did get to sleep fairly quickly though. But there were some unusual graphs. The Leak Rate basically went to zero. I have never seen that before. And Minute Ventilation started out high at 24, but settled down. See this report.

The two nights after that were just as bad or worse. Minute ventilation when going to sleep was as high as 30. I was really struggling to get my breath. The Leak Rate was still reporting essentially zero. And, I noticed that my humidifier water consumption had gone down to about 25% of what it normally is. I presume when there is less leakage there is less water consumption. I increased my Ramp Start pressure from my normal 9 cm, to 11 cm, but that did not help. I was attributing it to the hot weather, but I finally concluded something was wrong with my mask. So I gave it a thorough cleaning. The very fine screen vents on the P10 actually looked black. I have never seen that before. I used vinegar and Dawn soap which is my normal method of cleaning, but the vents did not seem to clean up. I finally used a toothbrush dipping it in isopropyl alcohol, and blowing it from the outside to inside direction with a small portable air compressor. That seemed to work. Here is my results from last night after the cleaning.

Success! Minute Ventilation has returned to normal and the leak rate has returned to normal. And I had a comfortable sleep with no gasping for air. CA events were a bit high, but that happen for me from time to time.

So what caused it all? I guess I could say that we have been having lots of forest fire smoke recently and blame it on climate change. But, I don't really think so. When I think back, I had an oops event on the Thursday before this all started. Instead of turning on the prewarm before going to bed, I accidentally turned on the Mast Fit Test. I recall there was a big rush of air as I did not have the mask on. I kind of think what happened was that the rush of air blew accumulated dust/dirt within the machine into the mask vents. The CPAP inlet filter which is a very fine after market type was clean, so I have to think the dirt came from within the machine and was dislodged by the high flow rate of the mask test. I have been using fine inlet filters for about a year now, but before that I was using quite coarse ResMed filters. I suspect over time they were allowing dust/dirt to accumulate within the machine. I have now done the mask test a few times with the mask and hose removed in hope it would blow out any more dirt inside the machine. It will blow for a short time and then shut down reporting the mask leakage is too high.

I guess we will see if this fix cures the problem. It has worked for one night! Lessons learned?

  1. At least for this P10 mask be suspicious if your leak rate drops to zero or near zero
  2. Use a fine aftermarket filter on the machine instead of the coarse ResMed ones
  3. Periodically run the Mask Leak test with no mask in place to blow out accumulated dirt in the machine.
  4. When cleaning the P10 very thoroughly clean the fine mesh vents, and if necessary use isopropyl alcohol and air.
  5. And last perhaps there are reasons to replace the whole mask. This portion of my mask is the original and is coming up to 5 years old! I probably should get a new one ($120), but this cleaning job seems to have worked, and I now know what to look for...
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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 1 year ago Sleep Enthusiast

I wouldn't even dream of saying 'I told you so' Sierra but time and unforseen occurrence are a sneaky team to beat. There are just too many things that can go wrong. The bottom filter on my mask only has to have a bit of viscous fluid to stop it completely.

Cleaning and replacing items is essential but there need to be more assured safety margins and the designs should be smarter and safer with less dependence on competence and reflexes.

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Sierra +0 points · about 1 year ago Original Poster Sleep Patron

It certainly was unexpected. I never considered that dust/dirt could have been building up in my machine and then come out all of a sudden. That is why I thought I would post it, so others could be aware of it. Had another good sleep last night. I even went over the leak red line, so it seems the vent is now functioning normally again.

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jewelsav +0 points · about 1 year ago

Thank you for this helpful warning, Sierra.

Quick question - which fine aftermarket filters do you use? Do you order online? Thank you.

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Sierra +0 points · about 1 year ago Original Poster Sleep Patron

These are the ones we got off Amazon. They are quite fine, but Amazon offers lots of choices, so there may be better ones. They collect dust faster than the coarse ResMed versions, and I replace them every 4 months. We were letting the ResMed ones go much longer than that, and that now appears to have been a mistake.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07Z953DQG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_image?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I see we bought them in November 2021, so we have been using them for a while now...

I think now, that the real secret to preventing this issue, may be to do a "big blow out purge" each time you replace the filter by turning the Mask Test feature on with the inlet filter out and the mask disconnected from the machine. that would ensure the highest possible air flow with no risk of blowing debris into the mask vent.

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