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Preparing for Serious Illness Like COVID 19

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 6 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

Here's a new chart for you Sierra, featuring all the truly important stuff! :)

Critical Data Related to COVID-19

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Sierra +0 points · 6 months ago Sleep Patron

That one is pretty good with some accuracy too. The only thing missing is the length of the hair. I took my motorcycle for a ride the other day and was still able to get my helmet on, so it must not be too bad yet...

And if you like to figure out graphs here is challenge. This is our province of BC (most westerly province) explanation as to where the virus came from. I think they are basically blaming it on all the other provinces in Canada...

Genomic Tracing

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 6 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

I saw a graph that seemed to indicate that the virus across large sections of the globe was all traced back to someone in Seattle.

Anyway surely the hair issue is way more important, unless you can afford a larger helmet, so I have found another graph that shows the true magnitude of the impact of this terrible virus!

DIY Haircuts!

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RebeccaR +0 points · 6 months ago Support Team

hahah that is hilarious and very accurate!

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 5 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

The most concerning set of numbers I have seen since this virus began, and not a chart in sight.

Coronavirus Antibody Study

It answers some questions and raises even more but perhaps the most urgent concern is what implications this will have for the development and effectiveness of a vaccine?

Just to put all of this back into a CPAP context, I had thought that we might have a reasonable window here in Australia before the virus got into the greater community. A chance to get some medical and technical stuff sorted (like trying out some new masks) with a minimal risk of exposure and, if that failed, then I had hoped that there would be more effective treatments in place later this year and a viable vaccine available early in the new year and that I could make my existing mask last until then.

All else failing I had assumed that, once the virus had gone through enough mutations, it would be less dangerous, but now it seems that most of those hopes and assumptions might be unfounded.

My mask is no longer working (don't ask) so there is some urgency to find a replacement.

How do I do that when it might not be safe to go into a Sleep clinic and look at some or try one or two for fit?

It looks like I will have to buy a new mask, unseen, untried and non-returnable.

Which mask would be a safe bet? Does anybody have suggestions or advice?

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KangarooTailStew +0 points · 5 months ago

Yeah I reckon things will get bad here soon. What's wrong with your old mask? Why get a different one? Can't you just get the same one again or buy some parts?

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 5 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

Well that is a question that is best dealt with in a new thread. Growing Noses

In the meantime perhaps a better question for this thread is how do we try new masks during a global pandemic?

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Sierra +0 points · 5 months ago Sleep Patron

Yes, there seems to be an anti-immunity crowd growing. It seems that those that get an asymptomatic version of the virus get the least immunity, and it does not last as long. The early vaccine testing seems to be showing immunity levels 2-3 times higher than achieved by actually getting COVID. The Moderna vaccine seems to have suffered a setback in the testing. They are new to making vaccines and can't get their act together with a testing protocol. Perhaps the Oxford vaccine trials will go better.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 5 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

If I was developing a vaccine in today's climate I would be more worried about the potential impact of future litigation than the efficacy and production of the vaccine, especially in the USA.

I imagine that law firms are already speculating on the potential for the biggest class action ever launched.

This is just one more hurdle that will have to be dealt with before we can hope to see what the new 'normal' might look like.

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KangarooTailStew +0 points · 4 months ago

Early next year is still possible if they scale up production. Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · 4 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

Apparently only 10% of vaccines are really effective in the long term so the first vaccines that become available might just serve as a stop gap till we find a better one.

I'm beginning to think that the long term social effects could be more damaging and longer lasting than the health impact of the virus.

So what are the potential social effects?

Our efforts to restrain this virus will push our economies into totally new terrain but I suspect that most national economies were an artificial construct in the first place and can probably be re-invented with enough goodwill and global co-operation but the businesses and jobs are going to take a long time to rebuild and that will have profound effects over time.

Many of the readers in this forum are 'oldies' and can probably relate to the feeling that our value to the younger folk is not what it might have been for past generations. Any skills or wisdom that we may possess are largely irrelevant nowadays. Add to this the accelerated pace of life for younger people and this global catastrophe could easily be seen as a generational problem, us old folk destroying their world in a futile attempt to stop what, to them, is just a new version of the flu.

Probably the biggest contributor to social issues will be government restrictions, which cause uncertainty and resentment and adversely impact on the outlook and well being of many people.

Another element that has dangerous potential is the way in which this world is so 'connected' that the conspiracy theorists and scare-mongers, and anybody else who wants a moment of fame or infamy, can start an inflammatory process that travels faster than the virus and is equally contagious and incurable.

All of these factors combine to fuel a level of social unrest that may be irreversible, even in what would previously have been considered conservative, law abiding countries.

So what has this got to do with CPAP?

Perhaps, instead of buying toilet paper or stocking up on meat, I should buy a spare mask and battery, and I really shouldn't watch the news if I want to get better sleep.

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KangarooTailStew +0 points · 3 months ago

It seems to be under control here now and even the news guys are looking for new stuff to talk about so we might be ok until we get careless. The nursing homes seem to be the hardest thing to manage.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 2 months ago Original Poster Sleep Enthusiast

Yes we've been lucky, as has New Zealand.

Many countries are really having a tough time of it.

We still get sporadic coverage of Covid19 impacts in other countries but most of our news, which I am trying to avoid watching, is about American politics.

I reckon that if we have to suffer such persistent coverage of someone else's dubious political system, we should all get a vote! :)

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