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baseten Your quote-" I tried the tape with the F10 this afternoon and think it might work. " I GO BACK AND FORTH FROM THE PAPER TAPE TO A HEADBAND ACROSS MY LIPS. I SOMETIMES HAVE THE CHEEKS PUFFING BUT DON'T KNOW WHY. IT LETS MY LIPS LEAK AIR BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE MY SCORE ANY WORSE. IT'S NOT LIKE I LEAVE MY MOUTH OPEN, I DON'T. IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH REM SLEEP, AIR PRESSURE, AND RELAXING MY TONGUE USING MY PILLOWS CPAP WHICH I LOVE MUCH BETTER THAN A FACE MASK THAT ALWAYS LEAK FOR ME BECAUSE I TURN ON MY SIDES AND IT PUSHES FROM MY PILLOW AND LEAKS. MY PILLOWS NEVER LEAK. MY SCORE SEEMS TO REMAIN THE SAME. COPIED HERE.... 7:15 usage hours 70 Good mask seal 20 1.7 events per hour 5 1 mask on/off 5 Total myAir score 100
wiredgeorge- Your quote-"I don't know why you get air in your cheeks but occasionally I get air in my mouth and just sort of poof it out. Only happens once in awhile and not for long periods. I doubt leaving your mouth open is the key but I am not sure." POOFING OF THE CHEEKS OR THE MOUTH SEEMS TO WAKE ME UP. DON'T KNOW WHY THIS HAPPENS BUT IT DOES. IT SOMETIMES LIKE TO MY MY LIPS LEAK SO THE REASON i USE PAPER TAPE. THIS PROBLEM HAUNTS ME AS I RELAX SO MUCH USING PILLOWS IN MY NOSE. HENCE THE REASON I FINALLY USED THE HEADBAND AROUND MY CHEEKS AND LIPS. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE FACIAL MARKS THAT LAST MOST OF THE DAY.REGARDLESS MY SCORE SEEMS TO STAY THE SAME. COPIED HERE. 7:15 usage hours 70 Good mask seal 20 1.7 events per hour 5 1 mask on/off 5 Total myAir score 100
Dr. Tony- I used the cheaper oral appliance. I gave it a try. Because it is hinged when I tried putting into my mouth, I could still lower my jaw below it and could breathe out my mouth. I don't want that. My headband idea is the only thing let keeps my mouth shut, my teeth almost touching, and my tongue from stop falling and relaxing. Better than the tape, and chin strap. The chin strap still lets me lightly pinch air out of my lips. If I tighten a chin strap up anymore, my jaw would hurt. The oral appliance is uncomfortable so going to have one fitted to my mouth would be my waste of money for what i need and I don't think it could stop with the puffing of air into my cheeks or letting my tongue loose in my mouth. The light paper tape was next to the best thing but the headband around my head, over my lips, and pushing in my cheeks was the best thing I found yet. Now to get rid of the headband lines around my face in the am. lol For comfort I have a nose pillows. Full mask always leaked air because of my sleeping on my side besides I find it more invading.
I just used my oral appliance I bought. Darn, I can still breath out my mouth under the appliance if my jaw dropped. Back to the headband.
Your idea worked for me for a long time too. Nasal pillows and then taping, and then headband and perhaps now the mouth guard if I can stand it and it keeps my tongue up into the roof of my mouth without my unconsciously letting it down while sleeping. Headband works fine but I hate the marks on my cheeks until noon the next day. lol
By the way myAir score is perfect.
Great Dr. Tony
RationalRed- Did you try the mouthguard too? Wiredgeorge-Is it a one piece mouthguard? Can you show it to us somehow on Amazon or just explain its look? I bought one but it is one piece and it not meant to heat it up in water. It has a white plug to pull out of it so that maybe if it was out, some air could come out of the mouth. I'm not sure I want air coming out of my mouth using nasal pillows or even coming into my mouth from the air pressure. Chin strap never worked. I just have to keep my tongue to the roof of my mouth would be fine but upon relaxing and sleep it drops down and again, chipmunk cheeks.
I also have struggled with this problem for over a year. Because I sleep on my side and move around, I tried a full face mask covering my nose and my mouth and it always leaked. I stayed with my Nasal pillows for comfort and it also stayed in place. I have light to medium sleep apnea. Someone pointed out to keep or train the tongue to the roof of my mouth. What I found out was during a deep sleep my tongue and teeth/jaw relaxes and air comes into my mouth and out my lips (hence putting paper tape on my lips) which works for most of the time. Sometimes with my air pressure from my Air Sense 10 machine, during the night air still puffed out my cheeks (chipmunk cheeks) and continually would wake me up and then I would put my tongue back into the roof of my mouth to stop air coming into my mouth. I tried the chin strap but not only was it uncomfortable, the tongue relaxation would still leak out of my lips again waking me up. Then I read someone that said they used a hair headband wrapped lowered over the head across the lips. LOW AND BEHOLD it worked by keeping my lips closed, my teeth bottom and top touching, my tongue would stay at the roof of my mouth and it put pressure on my cheeks not letting any leaking air puff out my cheeks. I needed string sewed into the headband so it did not fall below my lips and onto my neck. I do have a cheap mouth appliance but find it also uncomfortable and I haven't tried it long enough to see if it works. Only ONE DOWNFALL with the headband is that it leaves me with marks on my face for half of the next day. My numbers though stay perfect but sometime ago I did reduce my top 15 presure down to 10.5 on my Air Sense 10. Reports say I never use more than 9.8 so that works. I hope this makes sense.
RationalRedVioletStork3545 I know all about chipmunk cheeks. I found out that my mild to medium apnea did not need to be set at 15 because I never used more than 9.8 ever so they reduced it to 10.5. I still once in awhile get cheek puffing just because I can't always keep my tongue to the roof of my mouth when I am totally asleep and that wakes me up. It seems like when my tongue is at the roof of my mouth and when I probably am in rem sleep and need a higher level of air, a little air puffs out of my lips. Paper tape was the only thing that worked. Lately I use a hair headband and put it around my head over my mouth. That keeps pressure on my cheeks and doesn't let the air escape past my tongue and around the sides of my cheeks. I tried a headband from the med. equip. store but I can still puff air out of my pinched lips and I like less, not more equipment. I use a nasal mask. I tried full masks but I roam around the bed from side to side and then they leak. Oh yes, I did try the oral device from Amazon but I hated it in my mouth.
wired- You are right. It's not Wifi and my husband had explained to me some time ago. Duh me. I see the connection lines on the machine. Anyway, they know what is going on at all times and now that I changed to the provider setting on it, I can too.
