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Brain fog

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

Hello everybody,

I’m 38 years old and I’m suffer from sleep apnea.

I have been sleeping with cpap for 1,5 years. Now only when I’m sleeping on my back with cpap: I wake up with a terrible brain fog.

Does anyone recognize this? Sorry for my bad English: I’m from the Netherlands.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

Hi veraneder

I will let others deal with the machine and gear but how long does the fog last, what does your doctor have to suggest and could you get something to test O2 levels?

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

The fog is last for one day. When I sleep the whole night on my side it’s gone.

I have a resumed cpap. The pressure is 5 and the sleeprapport says my ahi is 0.

I already tried to change the pressure to the variabele modus but stil the fog...

I hope that you all van understand my Messages in English.

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

The knowledge of the doctors here is very poor. My 02 without the cpap was 90 procent. The never test it with cpap.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

It would be good to know your O2 levels when you first wake with brain fog.

I think you will need to read the data on the machine which is something that Sierra (in this forum) is good at.

If you were not convinced that it was as a result of sleeping on your back with the CPAP I would suggest you look for other causes not related directly to CPAP especially as your numbers (including age) are quite low.

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

Thank you for your message.

I already searched for other causes. I visited an internist and everything was fine.

The problem is only when I m sleep on my back=brain fog.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

One example of many.

Disrupted sleep (OSA) can hinder hormone production which can cause brain fog and poor sleep.

Other cycles are also impacted in the same way.

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

Has the pressure always been on 5 or have you adjusted it to 5?

How long is it since you had any adjustments made by specialists?

The reason I ask is that 5 would not work for most sufferers unless they were on their side because the real pressure to open the airways is mostly needed when you lie on your back.

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

I visited the specialist 2 weeks ago.

Maybe I can try to change the pressure. First i started with variabele pressure up to 8. After 2 weeks they set it to 5. Because the cpap rapport was 4 and 5 variabel.

I’m A female, normal weight, 36 stops ahi was 36. Which pressure can I trie?

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Sierra +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Patron

" 36 stops ahi was 36"

I'm not sure what you mean by that phrase? Can you explain more?

Sleeping on your back does tend to cause more apnea, but your machine should report it in the AHI. When you get an AHI of 0 with only 5 cm pressure, it would seem apnea is very mild. I understand from your other comment that the machine was set in auto mode up to 8 cm pressure but it only used 4 to 5 cm pressure? If so a fixed pressure of 5 would seem appropriate.

You can get a lot better idea of what is going on if you copy the data from your SD card with a card reader and use SleepyHead to view it. SleepyHead is a free download that runs on a PC or Mac. Here are some links. I believe it can be set up in your language, but the only manual I know of is in English.

SleepyHead Download

Basic Manual

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

2019 is only an hour away here so I might go party or something.

I wouldn't be comfortable making any specific suggestions but when I first got my CPAP machine I started at a safe level which for you seems to be 5 and then I raised it by 1 and checked the results next day. If there were still API events and no CSA events then I would repeat the process (raise by 1 each time) until the API events were as low as possible without inducing further CSA events.

If there is no urgency this process should take a number of days at each new setting to allow for irregularities.

I have little experience with CPAP machines and settings and I suspect that I am only getting half the picture here, not because of language but because I have my own fog to deal with, so it would be better if you discussed this with Sierra when he is available.

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veraneder +0 points · about 5 years ago Original Poster

Thanks for your information!

We have to wist for 10,5 hours until 2019.

Happy newyear!

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Biguglygremlin +0 points · about 5 years ago Sleep Enthusiast

Thank you and the same to yourself! I hope you can get the past the fog. :)

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