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Sierra

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Generally if your jaw drops open air pressure from the CPAP will force the lips open and cause a mouth leak. Probably the most direct solution to try is a chin strap. I found that many do not work, or were uncomfortable. The best one I used was the Breathewear Halo. In addition to helping keep the mouth closed it can also keep the mask straps in place. However, to be fair, it does introduce some additional level of discomfort. I used it for a while but found I still needed mouth taping. I eventually went to two layers of mouth tape and abandoned the chin strap. The first layer was 3M Micropore tape 25 mm wide. I then cover this with a larger 60 mm x 100 mm piece of Mefix tape. What I found was that the Mefix tape was flexible and stayed well attached, but it was not as moisture resistant as the 3M Micropore. For that reason I use the 3M to seal my lips, and the larger layer of Mefix to give it a bit more strength. I fold the edge of each layer over a bit so there is an easy way to remove it. This has allowed me to abandon the chinstrap. But the combination of chinstrap and tape does give the lowest leakage rates. I gave that up for additional comfort. For the most part I stay under the leak redline.

As far as your concern about the tongue falling back and blocking the airway, that is the basic purpose of using a CPAP. The air pressure is intended to keep the airway open. Air pressure stays in place while you are inhaling and exhaling, especially if you avoid use of the EPR or Flex features on the CPAP.

Welcome to the site. What is possible with CPAP treatment is somewhat dependent on the type of apnea you have, more than the initial diagnosed severity. My wife was diagnosed with apnea in the 85+ range, and now she routinely gets less than 1 for an AHI while using a ResMed S9 APAP. I on the other hand was diagnosed at I think 37 for an AHI and have trouble getting my AHI consistently below 3. My wife's apnea is almost all obstructive apnea. CPAP pressure is quite effective in preventing obstructive apnea. In my case my AHI is now predominantly central apnea, and pressure if anything can make it worse. I actually have mixed or complex apnea so my strategy to date has been to keep my pressure as low as possible to prevent obstructive apnea, but not create central apnea. Central apnea is not an obstruction, and instead the airway is clear, but the body does not try to breathe for longer than 10 seconds.

What type of machine do you have? The APAP ResMed and DreamStation machines are supported by a freeware software called SleepyHead. Some download and use that software to monitor their apnea more closely. Development of the software has been shutdown but the current version is quite functional providing you have a compatible APAP, a Mac or PC, and a SD card reader. If you use SleepyHead and post your daily report her you will get comments on what your issues might be. The goal of CPAP treatment is to get AHI under 5, while minimizing side effects of the treatment. SleepyHead can help you determine what is going well when you get an AHI of 2.6, and what is not going so well when your AHI is 10.6. The main purpose is to find out what type of events you are having, and when they are occurring during the night.

Hope that helps some. Any questions, just ask away...

Complex (both central and obstructive but with central dominant) sleep apnea is difficult to deal with. Here is a link to a good discussion about Complex Sleep Apnea. An ASV is a probable solution providing you do not need more than 20 cm of pressure to deal with obstructive apnea. They are expensive if insurance is not covering it though.

Are you using SleepyHead to monitor your apnea? If not it would be a good idea to get a better understanding of what is going on. An APAP can aggravate central apnea. Even when the machine does not increase pressure to a central apnea, it may respond to a central hypopnea because no machine that I am aware of can distinguish between a central and obstructive hypopnea. About the only way of dealing with it is to limit maximum pressure to the level required to deal with obstructive apnea and no more. You could also try with and without EPR.

Insurance companies can be difficult. To date the APAP has not worked, so that is the first step. Next they may insist on a BiLevel machine which does have a bit more capability, but in most cases it cannot deal with central apnea very well either. You may want to think of it as step you have to go through to get them to approve the ASV.

The other thing to check out with your doctor and heart specialist are other issues. Some heart issues can cause central apnea, and some drugs as well. If you live at high altitude that can aggravate central apnea as well.

Keep in mind that if they cannot get total AHI under 5 the treatment is not successful.

Hope that helps some,