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Sierra

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

First the easy answer. While I do not subscribe to it, ResMed offers what they call MyAir service. Each morning the basic summary data is uploaded automatically to the ResMed cloud. If you sign up for the service (no cost) you can access your own personal data which I suspect is tracked to the serial number of the machine. It is very high level stuff that is provided to mainly encourage you to keep using the device. For example you could get a poor AHI score but if you used the machine for 8 hours you would be given a very high overall score. This service is very difficult to turn off, and for some it raises privacy issues. Technically they could track from the cell service where you actually are located.

Next the more complicated. Your provider can access the data too. Whether or not they actually monitor it is something I am suspicious of, but I don't really know. I suspect because they have thousands of clients they really do not monitor results. Is there a flagging system that identifies those with bad AHI? Perhaps, but I doubt it. Second hand information but I do understand the DME system and insurance providers in the US may track compliance and take the machine away if they have paid for it, and you are not using it.

The clinic does not get the detailed data unless you as the patient bring the SD card in to them. They have software similar to SleepyHead which they can display the detailed data. Perhaps someone that is going back to their clinic on a regular basis may bring their card and ask them to look at it. However, the problem is that it takes quite a bit of time to review detailed data. I'm skeptical that it is really done much.

You have to understand there are two basic ways in which people get machines, and it varies from area to area. Some have the DME or insurance provider pay for it in a kind of a full meal deal arrangement. The cost can be in the order of $2400-2800 in addition to the cost of the sleep studies. Other people like myself without insurance can just get a prescription and buy the machine from an on line provider for $800-900. Most of these are quite clear that they provide no monitoring. The full meal deal providers should, and should answer any questions you have. Do they though....

There is lots of information and help on line if the patient wants to make the effort that will assist them in understanding the results. The basics are quite simple. The guidelines are to achieve an AHI of <5. The more difficult stuff comes in when one cannot do that. Then what do you do? And the obvious simple answer is go back to your sleep clinic that did the sleep study.

How do you get the data of your machine?

Most new machines use the cell phone network to send information to the machine provider and to the machine company cloud storage (ResMed for example). The data is very limited and mainly intended to monitor and encourage compliance (with using it). The real detailed data is only stored on the machine SD card. This is an example of what is stored where with a ResMed machine.

Why do you need it? Curiosity? Insurance? Do you give it to your doctor? Or use it yourself (it seems bloody complex!)?

Those who monitor their apnea closely need the data to see how well the machine is working and if there are any opportunities for improvement. Some insurance companies use the compliance data to determine if they will take the machine away if compliance is low. No I don't give the data to my doctor. It takes quite a bit of time to review the detailed data, so I expect most doctors just want to look at the summary data. Yes, I look at my detailed data daily to see how well I am doing, what type of apnea I am having, how well my mask is working for leaks. I can also tell if I am opening my mouth in the night causing leaks. The machine will also tell you if anything out of the ordinary is happening -- like Cheyne-Stokes respiration.

And finally is the data you are getting enough?

Yes, when one uses an applications like SleepyHead you can pretty much see all the data you want. If you just use a lightweight application like MyAir, you are pretty much in the dark. But if the AHI is good, and the machine is comfortable, then perhaps that is good enough. For some PAP treatment works very well, and is easy to maintain. For others it can be difficult, and requires pretty constant monitoring..

The main reason for confusion on the part of users is that many sleep clinics try to keep the data from the user, and are not very forthcoming on how it should be set up for comfort. Some even pull the SD card out of the machine before the patient is sent home with the machine. I suspect most sleep clinic technicians do not suffer from sleep apnea and don't use a PAP machine personally. Just my opinion...