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Sierra

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Your post was probably delayed due to the graphics. I just saw it today.

On your sleep test are those numbers events per hour? If so an AHI of 33 is moderate apnea and should be treated. I am a bit surprised that the pressure you are using is as high as it is (95% at about 18 cm). My AHI at diagnosis was 37 and I use 11 cm of pressure.

I find your results from the MAD device very interesting and are worth exploring. They are expensive but it would be worthwhile getting one made by a dentist.

You are using EPR at 3 cm and full time. People respond differently to EPR. I went a long time with EPR at 3 cm but on ramp only. When I switched to full time at 2 cm my hypopnea events went down significantly and my AHI improved from about 2 to less than 1. It is hard to predict the value of EPR and the best way is to try with it on and without it to see what works best for you. For some having EPR off can reduce the frequency of obstructive events and as a result reduce required pressure. Trial and error seems to be the only way to figure out what works best for each individual.

I have had issues with central apnea which you do not seem to have. The other big improvement I got and especially with respect to CA events was to switch from auto mode to fixed pressure CPAP. In auto it seems that the machine can sometimes start to chase its tail and raise pressure too much. I also think it can raise pressure too much based on hypopnea events which may be central (open airway flow reduction) in nature rather than obstructive. The machine is smart enough to not raise pressure in response to central events, but it seems to not be able to distinguish between central hypopnea and obstructive hypopnea. In any case I was running pressures in auto up to 15 cm, and now I am using a fixed 11 cm of pressure with full time EPR at 2 cm. It may be worth a try to see if it works for you. It is a trial and error process and based on your one night you may want to try 15 cm to start. And at least in the beginning make 1 cm changes in each direction to zero in on the optimum fixed pressure for you. Once you get close then you can fine tune with smaller steps. See my history below to get some idea how I did. Not very scientific, just patient trial and error!

On coffee I drink lots of it, but never after 12:00 noon, or any other caffeinated drinks in the PM or evening. There is some good sleep info at this link. It was set up by a professor of pharmacy in Nova Scotia I believe. His objective was to try and get seniors off sleeping pills.

Sleepwell It is No Dream

Are you using OSCAR to track your sleep data? If not it would be worthwhile to see in more detail what is happening. The software is free, but you need a Mac or PC and a SD card reader to use it. It provides a lot of detail which you can help to determine if your CA events are real or not.

In general when one is sleeping poorly and waking up you can get false flags of events. It is best to evaluate your results on a full night of good sleep.

There is no reason for a nasal mask to cause more events than a full face. You do have to change the setting in your setup to match the type of mask you are using though. Since your CA score was not that high during your home sleep test, and seems to be higher now, it is likely you are suffering from treatment emergent central apnea. The higher the pressure the more likely CA events are to occur. In most cases this effect goes away after 6-8 weeks of CPAP use. But, in general it is best to minimize the treatment pressure to what works for you. If one mask or another results in more pressure for some reason then the frequency of CA events can also change. OSCAR lets you see when and at what pressure events occur, so you can determine possible causes.

For a long time I had EPR set to run only during the ramp period and turn off after the ramp. But when I did a more extended test with EPR set to 2cm and full time, I got a reduction in hypopnea, and overall AHI reduced from about 2 to less than 1. But everyone is different. The best is to try it on and off for an extended period of time to see what works. In some, having the EPR on can result in more frequent OA events, and that in turn would cause the machine to use more pressure.