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Sierra

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

Sierra
Joined Jul 2018
Bio

CPAP: AirSense 10 AutoSet

Set to CPAP Fixed Mode

Pressure 11 cm

Ramp: Auto

Ramp Start: 9 cm

EPR: 2, Full Time

Mask: ResMed AirFit P10 Nasal Pillow

Canada

You have some good questions, and I don't think your experience is uncommon for new users of CPAP. Some questions for you:

  1. Do you have the AirSense 10 AutoSet model? It should say on the front of the machine, down beside where you have the humidifier water level indication.
  2. Is your machine set to CPAP mode or AutoSet mode? In CPAP mode you only have one fixed pressure. In AutoSet mode you have a minimum pressure and a maximum pressure. The machine automatically adjusts the pressure depending on your needs, up and down between those two pressures. These pressures may be shown briefly on the screen when you first start the machine.
  3. Do you have EPR turned on, and if so what is it set at? (1, 2, or 3).
  4. Are you using a heated Climate Air hose? It should be marked on the grey fitting at the end of the hose. It is darker in colour because there is a spiral wire running down the hose that is used for heating.
  5. Is your Climate Control set to Auto?
  6. Is your temperature set to 27 C or 81 F?
  7. What AHI numbers are you getting? That number should flash on the screen when you shut it off each morning.

Sorry for all the questions but all of that stuff makes a difference.

I will assume initially that your machine is set to CPAP mode which would mean one fixed pressure of 6 cm. In my opinion that pressure can be too low to be comfortable to some people. Switching your mask type should not make any difference. Each mask is designed to have a purge flow rate based on the dead space (size of the mask). A larger volume mask like a full face will have more purge flow, and a smaller volume mask like a nasal pillow style will have less purge flow. The idea is to control the CO2 level in the air so you are getting low CO2 when you breath in. For comfort purposes with the low air pressure you are using, you may be better off with a nasal pillow mask, like the AirFit P10. It is unlikely to help with the air flow issue. For that you most likely need an air pressure increase to at least 7 cm.

It is not that hard to make these changes yourself, and I can give you some instructions on how to do it, if you are comfortable in doing it. And comfortable with telling your doctor you have done it. The other option is to ask the doctor to change the pressure.

If it were me setting the machine up for a single pressure I would set it at 7 cm. I would turn on the EPR and set it at 3 cm. It reduces the pressure on exhale only by 3cm. So you would be feeling the assistance of 7 cm pressure to breath in, and only the resistance of 4 cm to breath out. Should make it easier to breath overall. Then I would turn the ramp back on, but set it to Auto with a start pressure of 7 cm, and set the EPR (exhale pressure relief) to function during the ramp time only. In auto it would only use the two pressure until you fall asleep. If you want to know how to do that, post again, with answers to as many of the questions above as you can. It is not really that hard. You just enter a special Clinician Menu which functions pretty much the same as the standard user menu. Many CPAP users adjust their own settings.

SleepyHead should run fine on a Windows 7 64-bit computer. I did a Google Image search for example SleepyHead screen shots, to illustrate what you can do with them. Here is a fairly simple one:

Basic APAP Example

This machine I believe is similar to the current Dreamstations. It has been set up with a very wide min max pressure range, and I would suggest the minimum at 5 cm is too low. I suspect this user may be feeling short of air in the night. The max of 10 cm looks OK. These machines seem to respond slowly to events and are constantly trying to reduce pressure. The result in this case is a high number of hypopnea events, and an unacceptable AHI over 5. If this were me, I would increase the minimum pressure to 8 cm. I suspect that would reduce the AHI to well under 5.

AirCurve 10 Example

This one is more complex, and perhaps more relevant to your situation. What you can immediately see is that this user is suffering from a very high number of central apnea events, and almost no obstructive apnea. This probably why they are on the AirCurve. It is using a fixed EPAP of 13 cm, and a pressure support of 4 cm. And as set up is not doing a very good job of addressing the central apnea. This person woke up and shut the machine off three times during the night, so is probably not getting a very restful sleep. Apnea events may be waking them up. What you can do with SleepyHead is zoom in on those central events and see in detail what is happening. Are they occurring suddenly or is the breathing pattern a waxing and waning. It is possible that EPAP pressure could be lowered, and pressure support increased. These machines also have some settings that affect how they switch from EPAP to IPAP (TiControl, Rise Time). They may need some fine tuning. Or it could be that this user is at the limit of what can be done with the AirCurve 10, and may need the full ventilator AirCurve 10 ASV.

I hope that helps some. You may not be comfortable making these kind of adjustments yourself, but if you dig into the data of what is happening, then you can have a much better discussion with your doctor about potential improvements from adjustment changes. In 4 months I have made 17 adjustments to my pressure settings. I think I now have settings that are about as good as it is going to get. However, it takes time.

Here are a couple of real life examples of using EPR compared to not using it.

On my AirSense 10 AutoSet I adjusted pressure over time to do the best I could with an EPR of 3. To get a technically acceptable but poor AHI of about 4 I needed a maximum pressure setting of 15 cm. Now over time with EPR set at 3, but acting only during the ramp (set on auto) period of time, I have managed to get my maximum pressure setting down to 12 cm. While my AHI is still not super great because I have central apnea issue, I still have gotten it down to the 2.4 range, with the lower pressure of 12 cm. If you look at obstructive apnea events only, I do much better, with my last night actual scoring at zero for OAs! After I go to sleep I don't find it hard to exhale against 12 cm of pressure.

My wife uses a ResMed S9, and has been using it over 3 years now. I tried some time ago to convince her to stop the EPR, but she said she did not like it. So up until a couple of weeks ago she was using a maximum pressure setting of 15 cm and an EPR of 2 (that was our compromise a while ago), and getting an AHI of 1.6. While she started with a diagnosed AHI in the 70's and more than double my diagnosis, she gets much better AHI's as she has almost no centrals. Two weeks ago I convinced her to try the no EPR route again. I set her machine at EPR 3 but ramp only, with a maximum pressure of 14. Her average AHI to date with this setting is 1.1, and she even got a zero AHI in the past week. So far, my wife has not complained this time about exhaling against 14 cm of pressure. Now if she stops getting nights with zero AHI the discussion may be back on again!!

So, I gained the full 3 cm of pressure reduction with the elimination of EPR during the sleep period. My wife gained 1 cm reduction with a 2 cm change in EPR. So, it seems the hit from EPR can be a bit of an individual thing.

On the issue of getting more oxygen due to the high pressure during inhale compared to exhale, I am not so convinced. For sure it is real, but I have to question the magnitude of it. Why? The amount of oxygen in air is determined by the absolute pressure of the air, not the relative or gauge pressure that we use in CPAP. At sea level using CPAP units of pressure the absolute pressure is 1033 cm of water. So if we make an EPR 3 cm change in pressure that changes the oxygen content in the same volume of air by 3/1033 or 0.3%. Not a big number. And to put it in context our weather is changing our actual atmospheric pressure in the order of 35 cm of water from a high pressure event to a low pressure event. That means oxygen content is changing just due to weather as much as 35/1033 or 3.3%. That is a much higher impact than using EPR.

That said, I encourage using EPR, but only during the ramp period where it does not compromise the treatment of apena when you are sleeping.