Untreatable sleep-onset/transitional sleep apnea

Hello all, thanks for all that input.

I myself try to stay away from chemicals and BigPharma, maybe the following ideas will be useful for someone?

I started this not so funny but surprising behavior a few weeks ago, after recuperating from a bronchitis. Which is peculiar in itself because i am NEVER sick (knock on wood) maybe because i waste lots of time sleeping 9-10 hours a day. My CSA is maybe caused by a side effect of the antibiotics i resolved taking after 2 weeks of lung tearing, since neurological causes of CSA are considered. Speaking of neurologique causes, i did not get the cov jab so it's not involved.

I feel sorry for all of you suffering this ailment when you got to sleep. Or try to. Me i get it only in the morning, when i go back to bed after the mandatory pipi.

Maybe i don't have trouble falling asleep because of the 2 glasses of white wine i have before bedtime. A (maybe not so bad, then?) habit i took while longhaul truck driving, to numb me into a sleepnight in the truck cab's sleeper, in not always ideal conditions. I am planning to stop having that sleep aid for financial reasons, but if i end up needing a pill to get to sleep i will get back to wine, i promiss.

So speaking of natural stuffs:

--when i need an anxiolitic i turn to St-John's wort. Potent enough to come with a warning of not taking it if you are on a chemical antidepressor. My wife's brief stint of Transitional CSA ended when she had that as sleep aid (look here: she also was freshly off antibiotics for her emphysema exacerbation. hmmm...) ;

--having echinacea regularly will lessen the need for antibiotics, have a massive dose (along with B, C, D, Zinc) when the FluBeast shows up;

--white willow extract instead of Aspirin, including the blood thinning effect (acetylsalycilic acid is found in willow bark).

Along with wort's sleeping aid potential, here are a few good choices among "The Good Lord's pharmacy" (as Maria Treben calls it): Valerian, Passionflower, Hops, Linden, Melissa, Chamomille, Skullcap, Lemon balm, Oatstraw, Lavender, Rhodolia, Griffonia, Ashwagandha, Hawthorn, , , ... .

You can find all these in diverse forms: capsules, tinctures, essential oils, loose leaf herbal teas (tisannes)...and as weed, around your house. Go out, pick, steep or macerate...

I am not a medecine doctor, sleep technician, whatever. I just wanted to point to good stuff i know about and/or experienced. Keep in mind lots of those also come with warnings, some have side effects, etc

Sorry for my weird Inglisch, i'm from Québec.

I would be happy and honored to have bored you all to sleep ;-)

Claude

Any updates from the previous users re: TSA? I dealt with the eight years ago and suddenly the symptoms are starting up again. I'm so frustrated and completely consumed by this.

The reason I ask if you are using a CPAP is that most CPAP's record very detailed data that you can view with a freeware program called OSCAR. You can look and see what is happening to your breathing pattern down to each breath you take. Here is an example from my sleep last night. For the first half minute or so, you can see the rough irregular breathing before I settle down. After that the breathing becomes quite regular except for a small glitch where the green vertical line is at 22:43:20. At 22:45:40 the machine decides I am asleep and starts increasing pressure. At 22:46:30 there is another small glitch in my breathing. However there is nothing like an apnea event which is defined as a stoppage in breathing for 10 seconds or more.

So if you do use a CPAP again I would suggest downloading the data from the SD card and look at it in detail to see what is happening. It may shed some light on what the issue might be.

It could be a severe case of "Paroxysmal nocturnal dyspnea"., the only difference is that instead of happening a few hours after sleep, it occurs instantly.