Biguglygremlin

I am just an observer and not really familiar with the functions of the auto machines but it seems to me that most men who are snoring would be improved at 10 but it would not be enough. Your father would probably take the mask off after a short while. It wouldn't do harm but it wouldn't deliver noticeable results either.

Most men would begin to notice real benefits at 11 or 12 and I suspect that in most cases the sleep specialists would specify starting at 12 or thereabouts and with the auto machine it should figure out for itself what to do.

I only suggested a low max so you would feel confident that it couldn't do any harm and because when high pressure can do harm it seems silly to trust the machine unreservedly.

Perhaps 7 - 15 would have been a better suggestion for an auto machine.

Once he has used it for even a few hours the machine will give you data that you can use to set it up properly.

Up to that stage it is still quite simple and well within your ability to manage.

The machine also collects extensive data on the SD card and that's where this forum can be really helpful.

Sorry dmypub it's not a fun place to be.

Most masks seem to be a precarious balancing trick.

Too tight and they don't work, too loose and they don't work.

You just get them in the right spot then put your head on the pillow and it's back to leaking again.

How long before your new mask arrives?

It might be worth totally undoing the straps and turning it on and placing the mask in the perfect position on your face then resetting the straps to that angle and position.

Sometime all those incremental adjustments are actually moving it out of position.

If all else fails you could probably turn the pressure down a point or so for a few nights without major consequences.

When I get desperate and the mask persists in constantly shifting (even on the pink satin pillow) I get the shears out and give myself a crew cut (military style short haircut) It makes a big difference to how well the mask stays in place, although it's probably not the option of choice for ladies with pink CPAP machines. :O

I drink pretty toxic coffee Sierra.

A hint of foaming lime hand wash might improve it. :P

I adopted that name in anticipation Ruby way before it was a reality.

I guess that makes me a prophet too eh? :)

I think they call it Empirical Research Ruby, and they use numbers, lots of numbers, big numbers, small numbers all carefully randomised and precisely positioned on their special science cork board.

Then they requisition the very latest and most advanced algorithm generating super precise medically approved XQ Micheal Van Gerwin Pink Demolisher darts. (Along with instructions and colour co-ordinated safety equipment)

It takes them a while to figure out how to get those algorithm generators out of the packet. They usually have to call in outside help at that stage, but once that task is achieved to their satisfaction, and carefully ticked off the check list, and they have adjusted the calibrations, and rebalanced the devices, and calculated velocity and trajectories and such, it takes no time at all, with all due rigor and precise notations, to get the results they need.

Of course there are still some who dare to challenge the validity of the Enhanced Dart Methodology (EDM) and insist on doing it the old fashioned (and much safer) way with surveys and databases and charts and such but they are few and far between.

I hope that helps.

Do you know how annoying that is Ruby? :(

To search for something THOROUGHLY and finally resign myself to it's non existance.

Only to have some woman tell me it's right under my nose!

If a man loses something in the forest, and there is no woman around, it is truly lost! :P

I can't say I agree with the fear angle Sherry.

I believe there are better ways to motivate people.

Certainly education and knowledge are essential.

I would much rather have the motivation and education and research and propaganda directed towards avoiding CPAP

There should be much more done to educate people about the choices they make every time they open the fridge.

Not as a scaremongering campaign but as a motivational supportive educational campaign.

Fear might work in the short term but it takes understanding and positive motivation to implement long term changes.

Yes I am dreaming but we have taken on massive challenges in the past as a society and achieved phenomenal results.

Maybe I should begin with the usual disclaimer.

DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME!

I had my Resmed 9 for four years and I seem to recall wiping it down from time to time

Then there was that time when we were staying in a caravan and a troop of thirsty ants marched up inside the hose to the humidifier chamber. That sure got my attention so I cleaned it up pretty well that time, but generally the machine just sat there collecting dust until it finally died.

My new machine seems destined to be just as loved and cared for.

I rarely do anything with the humidifier insert other than a quick rinse from time to time.

I almost never wash the hoses ever since I had one shut the machine down immediately after I gave it a quick wash.

My headgear rarely gets washed since I concluded that washing it was the fastest way to destroy it.

That leaves the pillows which I do wash with some care and effort.

I rub a little foaming soap on them, pop them in my coffee mug, fill it with boiling water, then haul them out and make some coffee.

I go through this ritual a couple of times a week. (too much caffeine is bad for me)

So that's a pretty intense cleaning routine. :)

Hard to see where I can improve on it right?

Well I'm not oblivious to all the admonition to care for devices that could impact on the quality of the air I breathe or my general health and welfare so I have resolved to clean up my act.

I'm going to take that filter out of the air conditioner and scrub it properly!

Then I'm going to take these fans outside and disassemble them and get them all shiny and clean again.

After that I intend to clean up my computer that has wall to wall dust bunnies perpetually being blown into the air around where I sit.

Eventually, if the wife doesn't get to it first I am going to clean out the fridge and finish up with a nice cold drink.

I know the CPAP claims a higher status than my fridge but should it?

Did someone invoke the issue of it being a medical device. Whatever does that mean?

I have to ask, which one is more likely to make me sick?

A dusty CPAP or a mouldy fridge?

I don't begrudge my CPAP a reasonable level of care but special status complete with rituals, candles, incense and chanting? I don't think so!

Do my own research? :O

You're joking right!

I came to this forum so that they could do the research for me. :P

You can blame Sierra for this link:

The Provent® trial was a three-arm RCT studying the efficacy of a nasal expiratory positive airway pressure device to prevent the recurrence of OSA following the CPAP withdrawal. Sixty-seven patients with OSA, previously on CPAP, were randomised to either continue CPAP or to use the nasal EPAP-device or a sham-nasal EPAP-device (28). The trial found no therapeutic effect of Provent® on OSA compared to sham-Provent, and thus concluded that the nasal EPAP device is ineffective and cannot be recommended as an alternative treatment for OSA.

Regardless of those outcomes they must work for some people or you wouldn't still be using them.

How effective is the Provent device Sherry?

I thought I read someplace that it was a bit ineffective with some levels of apnea.

What makes it costly beyond the initial purchase?